Wednesday 2 October 2013

James Burgess (Sufi) - You Want to Know This About Him

The James Burgess claims to be a professional astrologer, Sufi teacher, Spiritual leader, Spiritual healer, business owner and etc. and etc. I understand that he offers psychotherapy and relationship counselling sessions along with many other things he do and claims to be able to do.

He seem to be the one who endorses himself for having all above abilities. He says he has travelled a lot, met a lot of people, trained a lot, yet still he doesn't bring on a single name that his references can be checked with. 

What attracts my attention is a decision making system (7Words) which he claims to have come up with. The 7Words on the surface seem to be consistent and common sense, but I found it to be flawed in its fundamentals when he mixes simple and common sense logic of decision making with the spiritual things he also advocates (chukra, universal energy, etc. and astrology)

http://www.7words.co.uk

This become clear to me through a correspondence I had with him and through analysing some of his videos which are available on YouTube.

First thing to mention about my correspondence with him was that he only continued to correspond with me as long as he thought I was a potential customer of his 7Words system and as soon as I began to put questions and criticism of his ideas to him and requested answers he stopped communicating with me altogether.

 In his last response to me he said that I need to have “faith” in order to understand his point of views and since I don’t have “faith” I am unable to understand and he can’t therefore help me. So instead of answering my questions he offered to pray for me to find my “faith”. And that was the last time he replied to any of my emails and correspondence.

Also the highlight of my correspondence with him was when I pointed out to him the inconsistency I saw in the way he introduces himself. He often in his videos and his website describes himself as a Sufi, however when I began my correspondence with him - while he still didn’t know how I got to know him – in regards of Sufism he told me:

“It is a riddle that has lost its appeal to me. I do what I do, and people call me what they like”

So I replied to him and asked if people call him a Sufi, it is because you have a whole website describing yourself as one, and is because you keep acting as one!  And I requested that he clarifies if he considers himself a Sufi or not a Sufi finally. The reason I raised this question was that I found the way he introduces himself to be very “circumstantial” and “inconsistent” so wanted to know who he really think he is and what are his convictions.

James Burgess On-line Evasion in Response to my Questions
He never replied to my question in regards of his affiliation to Sufism and never tried to clear that up. But what happened later on was that I realized he closed down his website that he was introducing himself as a Sufi in there and removed all of his Sufi teaching and contents from there (Sufism, Zikr, DUP, Alchimical Sufism, etc.). He also removed the access to Russian and Lithuanian versions of his website with a note that he is going to Ireland.

James Burgess Website before I asked him questions (click to enlarge)
(18-Aug-2013)

James Burgess Website after I asked him questions
you can see all the Sufi stuff are removed (click to enlarge)
(26-Sep-2013)

James Burgess Website after he left to Ireland
you can see all the mentions to Sufi topics and etc.
are now permanently removed (click to enlarge)
(15-Oct-2013)

The disablement of his website which was most likely in reaction to my question about his affiliation with Sufism made the situation more suspicious after all. Why he had to do this in response to my questions if he was comfortable with what he represented on his website for years about himself? Why he had to remove them if he sincerely believed those information about Sufism and Zikr and Dup where the truth? Or if he doubted their validity and value why he put them on his website on the first place?

Also another suspicious thing about James Burgess on-line reaction to my questions was in regards of the events he was claiming to have arranged for year 2013/2014 in UK on his website as per bellow screenshots:

James Burgess 7Words events before I questioned him
Number of UK events on the event list = 20 (doesn't fit on one screenshot)
(18-Aug-2013)

James Burgess 7Words event after my questions and his on-line evasion
Number of UK events on the list =
(15-Oct-2013)

So as you can see he removed most of the events that he was claiming to have had arranged for 2013/2014 from his website as a part of his on-line evasion from my questions. I developed two more suspensions as a result of his particular reaction towards his events list!

1) Can it be that most of the events he had on his event list prior to my questions were in fact fake events? Just put there in the list to give a sense of being busy and popular to unaware individuals who were drawn to his website? And now fearing the publicity I was going to give him he chose to remove them?
2) He Particularly removed the part which he was mentioning:
leading to Certified Practitioner status
James Burgess and Richard Grey
What is illegal or controversial about this part that he also decided to remove it from his website? If he is happy and legitimate with issuing Certifications why he doesn't want these to be seen on his website any longer? 

James Burgess To be Exposed
Even though James Burgess stopped replying to my emails in that point but I didn't stop and continued sending more and more questions to him to give him a chance to clarify what I found contradictory and paradoxical in his ideas. However as he refused to answer my question and in a way just ignored them I am going to publish some of my findings about him and my analysis of his ideas for any other person who may become interested in future.

List of Blog Posts about James Burgess:
Why 7Words fails and has to be avoided - in context of an example of an abused wife 

7Words and its "Basics" and "Fundamentals":
http://sandbadbehzad.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/james-burgess-sufi-7words-scepticism.html

7Words and "Astrology":
http://sandbadbehzad.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/james-burgess-sufi-7words-scepticism_5513.html

7Words and "demand for specifc questions" and "wrong body language" :
http://sandbadbehzad.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/james-burgess-sufi-7words-scepticism_2.html

I am hereafter closing my case on James Burgess.

6 comments:

  1. it is really good that you have made this effort to communicate and estalbishwho and wht he is... his evasive resonnsemenas that his true colours are reveale Hopefully more examples of his dishonesty will come to light so that he is no longer able to prey on vulnerable people.

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  2. thanks Niether Free Nor for Sale. hope this will be ...

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  4. Wow. Yes, thank you for taking the time to write this! James Burgess has just started a sufi group here in the West Cork of Ireland and as I did enjoy the day and he seemed to pretty much know what he was doing and talking about, as I'm sure he has studied it...and as well i did have a profound experience the next day (coincidence or not i don't know); but what got me searching ''James Burgess fraud'' is because of an experience I had with him the following day...He offered to give me an astrological reading..I had semi-unconscious mixed feelings about it because he was so keen to do it for me. Why me? I think i didn't want to admit to myself that it seemed it was some way to be with me...So after the sufi group he mentioned it again (as i had met him before the group at a party) and i had the next day free, and I enjoyed the sufi group so i agreed to go out to his. The next 6 hrs or so is a bit of a blur in the way that it was so confusing as to what happened. When I thought about it later as it was troubling me to the nth degree...basically I felt ambushed, manipulated, tricked,...I'll try to explain what happened...First of all he talked about himself a lot (which i've noticed about him before) and then we got in to the reading...We didn't get far at all when (here's where it gets a little muddy in my memory) he started getting personal with me about someone who had been flirting with me on fb. Obviously he had been following me and this other individuals comments and conversations...He tried to judge this man and tell me he was praying on my vulnerabilities...I became angry and told him in an assertive manner that it wasn't his business, that he didn't know this man or me and that thank you I can take care of myself. ...I don't know he started talking about my unconscious, about my mother and my relationship to her, he somehow got me to tell him about my background in childhood abuse...and then it was my fault because I made my father untrustworthy when I didn't trust him. When i was a baby in this man's arms i didn't trust him and so he became untrustworthy...he eventually had me in the palm of his hands, he was demanding me to trust him. He then told me he was doing a certain type of astrology; not the usual kind; then he said he was using NLP on me. What the?? I never agreed to this. If he would have said so before hand I don't think i would have come over. ..He said noone ever knew me like he knew me...Basically he takes from any system of beliefs out there that he wants to, to justify any thing he says or does. While I don't think a lot of his motivations are conscious...I think he is abusing his status and power...and it was an extremely upsetting experience.

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    1. Hi Rebecca, thanks for taking the time to write a reply. and sorry to hear about your experience.

      Even though I have never met James Burgess myself or had any direct dealings with him, but your observations matche my experience with him as well.

      I know he actively seeks people who are emotionally vulnerable in order to manipulate them to get what he wants from them. I got to know that through some dealings a person I held dear had with him when she got involved in a so-called spiritual group James Burgess runs under the title: "7 Words Decision Making System"


      I have written about that here:
      http://sandbadbehzad.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/james-burgesssufi-7words-sceptisem-why.html

      And here:
      http://sandbadbehzad.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/james-burgess-sufi-7-words-personal.html

      He is not an honest man. I am glad you didn't get more involved :)

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  5. Thanks so much for your reply. Just seeing now. xx

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